We're joined by Jonathan Rauch to discuss what it means to be a radical incrementalist, how to foment revolution on geological timescales, and whether Christianity can be a force for good in politics. Can Jon convince angry-Hitchens-atheist Vaden that Christianity has some benefits? Will both Vaden and Ben be at Sunday prayer?

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We discuss

• The constitution of knowledge and whether it's holding
• Norms vs laws, and whether we should introduce more laws to codify norms
• Popper's paradox of tolerance
• How should liberals respond to illiberalism? Which tactics, if any, should democrats adopt from MAGA to fight MAGA?
  
• Sharp Christianity and Christian nationalism
• Rauch's plea to Christians

References

• The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of Truth
• Cross Purposes: Christianity's Broken Bargain with Democracy

Errata

Jonathan Rauch is the author of nine books, not eight!

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