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    <title>Increments - Episodes Tagged with “Truth”</title>
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    <description>Vaden Masrani, a senior research scientist in machine learning, and Ben Chugg, a PhD student in statistics, get into trouble arguing about everything except machine learning and statistics. Coherence is somewhere on the horizon. 
Bribes, suggestions, love-mail and hate-mail all welcome at incrementspodcast@gmail.com. 
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    <itunes:summary>Vaden Masrani, a senior research scientist in machine learning, and Ben Chugg, a PhD student in statistics, get into trouble arguing about everything except machine learning and statistics. Coherence is somewhere on the horizon. 
Bribes, suggestions, love-mail and hate-mail all welcome at incrementspodcast@gmail.com. 
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  <title>#98 (C&amp;R Chap 10, Part III) - What is truth?</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>The boys dive into a discussion on objective truth. What is Truth, really? Why is The Correspondence Theory of Truth the only game in town here? </itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>"What is Truth?", said jesting podcasters, who then stuck around for an answer. Back at it again with The Conjectures and Refutations Series (part three) on Chapter 10: Truth, Rationality, and the Growth of Scientific Knowledge. Can we say what truth is, even if we can never be certain we've found it? If not, can we say that science is approaching truth? How would we ever know? And why are so many theories of truth untrue?
We discuss
Ben's early reflections on  Abigail Shrier's book Bad Therapy 
Why did Popper feel the need to answer this particular "what is" question?
Can asking "what is truth" be a demogogic and bad-faith question?
The correspondence theory of truth vs The pragmatic theory of truth vs The coherence theory of truth 
Alfred Tarski's formalization of the correspondence theory of truth 
Are there problems with the correspondence theory?
The disagreement between Vaden and Deutsch on truth
References
Daniel Bonevac on the Correspondence theory of truth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlG_VaN1LHQ  
Tarki's 1944 paper (https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54c161ffe4b063fc8ab03446/t/54c3c492e4b03dfa2a2e40f8/1422115986189/Tarski+-+The+Semantic+Conception+of+Truth.pdf) on the semantic conception of truth 
Tarki's 1933 paper (http://www.thatmarcusfamily.org/philosophy/Course_Websites/Readings/Tarski%20-%20The%20Concept%20of%20Truth%20in%20Formalized%20Languages.pdf) "On the concept of truth in formalized languages" 
Deutsch's 2022 talk on truth: Musings about Truth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ-opI-jghs)
# Socials
Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani
Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link
Become a patreon subscriber here (https://www.patreon.com/Increments). Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations here (https://ko-fi.com/increments).
Click dem like buttons on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ)
It would be both useful, coherent, and correspond to our happiness if you signed up for our patreon or discord. Hit us up at incrementspodcast@gmail.com  
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    <![CDATA[<p>&quot;What is Truth?&quot;, said jesting podcasters, who then stuck around for an answer. Back at it again with The Conjectures and Refutations Series (part three) on Chapter 10: Truth, Rationality, and the Growth of Scientific Knowledge. Can we say what truth is, even if we can never be certain we&#39;ve found it? If not, can we say that science is approaching truth? How would we ever know? And why are so many theories of truth untrue?</p>

<h1>We discuss</h1>

<ul>
<li>Ben&#39;s early reflections on  Abigail Shrier&#39;s book Bad Therapy </li>
<li>Why did Popper feel the need to answer this particular &quot;what is&quot; question?</li>
<li>Can asking &quot;what is truth&quot; be a demogogic and bad-faith question?</li>
<li>The correspondence theory of truth vs The pragmatic theory of truth vs The coherence theory of truth </li>
<li>Alfred Tarski&#39;s formalization of the correspondence theory of truth </li>
<li>Are there problems with the correspondence theory?</li>
<li>The disagreement between Vaden and Deutsch on truth</li>
</ul>

<h1>References</h1>

<ul>
<li>Daniel Bonevac on the Correspondence theory of truth: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlG_VaN1LHQ" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlG_VaN1LHQ</a><br></li>
<li>Tarki&#39;s 1944 <a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54c161ffe4b063fc8ab03446/t/54c3c492e4b03dfa2a2e40f8/1422115986189/Tarski+-+The+Semantic+Conception+of+Truth.pdf" rel="nofollow">paper</a> on the semantic conception of truth </li>
<li>Tarki&#39;s 1933 <a href="http://www.thatmarcusfamily.org/philosophy/Course_Websites/Readings/Tarski%20-%20The%20Concept%20of%20Truth%20in%20Formalized%20Languages.pdf" rel="nofollow">paper</a> &quot;On the concept of truth in formalized languages&quot; </li>
<li>Deutsch&#39;s 2022 talk on truth: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ-opI-jghs" rel="nofollow">Musings about Truth</a>
# Socials</li>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>Become a patreon subscriber <a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations <a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</li>
<li>Click dem like buttons on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow">youtube</a></li>
</ul>

<p>It would be both useful, coherent, and correspond to our happiness if you signed up for our patreon or discord. Hit us up at <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a> </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>&quot;What is Truth?&quot;, said jesting podcasters, who then stuck around for an answer. Back at it again with The Conjectures and Refutations Series (part three) on Chapter 10: Truth, Rationality, and the Growth of Scientific Knowledge. Can we say what truth is, even if we can never be certain we&#39;ve found it? If not, can we say that science is approaching truth? How would we ever know? And why are so many theories of truth untrue?</p>

<h1>We discuss</h1>

<ul>
<li>Ben&#39;s early reflections on  Abigail Shrier&#39;s book Bad Therapy </li>
<li>Why did Popper feel the need to answer this particular &quot;what is&quot; question?</li>
<li>Can asking &quot;what is truth&quot; be a demogogic and bad-faith question?</li>
<li>The correspondence theory of truth vs The pragmatic theory of truth vs The coherence theory of truth </li>
<li>Alfred Tarski&#39;s formalization of the correspondence theory of truth </li>
<li>Are there problems with the correspondence theory?</li>
<li>The disagreement between Vaden and Deutsch on truth</li>
</ul>

<h1>References</h1>

<ul>
<li>Daniel Bonevac on the Correspondence theory of truth: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlG_VaN1LHQ" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlG_VaN1LHQ</a><br></li>
<li>Tarki&#39;s 1944 <a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54c161ffe4b063fc8ab03446/t/54c3c492e4b03dfa2a2e40f8/1422115986189/Tarski+-+The+Semantic+Conception+of+Truth.pdf" rel="nofollow">paper</a> on the semantic conception of truth </li>
<li>Tarki&#39;s 1933 <a href="http://www.thatmarcusfamily.org/philosophy/Course_Websites/Readings/Tarski%20-%20The%20Concept%20of%20Truth%20in%20Formalized%20Languages.pdf" rel="nofollow">paper</a> &quot;On the concept of truth in formalized languages&quot; </li>
<li>Deutsch&#39;s 2022 talk on truth: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ-opI-jghs" rel="nofollow">Musings about Truth</a>
# Socials</li>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>Become a patreon subscriber <a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations <a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</li>
<li>Click dem like buttons on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow">youtube</a></li>
</ul>

<p>It would be both useful, coherent, and correspond to our happiness if you signed up for our patreon or discord. Hit us up at <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a> </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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  <title>#74 - Disagreeing about Belief, Probability, and Truth (w/ David Deutsch)</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2024 09:30:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>We talk with David Deutsch about whether the concept of belief is a useful lens on human cognition, when probability and statistics are actually useful, and whether he disagrees with Karl Popper about the truth. </itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>What do you do when one of your intellectual idols comes on the podcast? Bombard them with disagreements of course. We were thrilled to have David Deutsch on the podcast to discuss whether the concept of belief is a useful lens on human cognition, when probability and statistics should be deployed, and whether he disagrees with Karl Popper on abstractions, the truth, and nothing but the truth. 
Follow David on Twitter (@DavidDeutschOxf) or find his website here (https://www.daviddeutsch.org.uk/). 
We discuss
Whether belief is a fruitful lens through which to analyze ideas 
Whether a non-quantitative form of belief can be defended 
How does belief bottom out epistemologically? 
Whether statistics and probability are useful 
Where should statistics and probability be used in practice? 
The Popper-Miller theorem
Statements vs propositions and their relevance for truth 
Whether Popper and Deutsch disagree about truth 
References
The Popper-Miller theorem. See the original paper (https://www.nature.com/articles/302687a0) 
David's 2021 talk on the correspondence theory of truth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ-opI-jghs) 
David's talk on physics without probability (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfzSE4Hoxbc). 
Hempel's paradox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven_paradox) 
The Beginning of Infinity (https://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Infinity-Explanations-Transform-World/dp/0143121359)
Knowledge and the Body-Mind Problem (https://www.amazon.ca/Knowledge-Body-Mind-Problem-Defence-Interaction/dp/0415135567)
Socials
Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani, @DavidDeutschOxf
Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link
Believe in us and get exclusive bonus content by becoming a patreon subscriber here (https://www.patreon.com/Increments). Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations here (https://ko-fi.com/increments).
Click dem like buttons on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ)
What's the truth about your belief on the probability of useful statistics? Tell us over at incrementspodcast@gmail.com.  Special Guest: David Deutsch.
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  <itunes:keywords>probability, statistics, truth, belief, epistemology, certainty, mathematics</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>What do you do when one of your intellectual idols comes on the podcast? Bombard them with disagreements of course. We were thrilled to have David Deutsch on the podcast to discuss whether the concept of belief is a useful lens on human cognition, when probability and statistics should be deployed, and whether he disagrees with Karl Popper on abstractions, the truth, and nothing but the truth. </p>

<p>Follow David on Twitter (@DavidDeutschOxf) or find his website <a href="https://www.daviddeutsch.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. </p>

<h1>We discuss</h1>

<ul>
<li>Whether belief is a fruitful lens through which to analyze ideas </li>
<li>Whether a non-quantitative form of belief can be defended </li>
<li>How does belief bottom out epistemologically? </li>
<li>Whether statistics and probability are useful </li>
<li>Where should statistics and probability be used in practice? </li>
<li>The Popper-Miller theorem</li>
<li>Statements vs propositions and their relevance for truth </li>
<li>Whether Popper and Deutsch disagree about truth </li>
</ul>

<h1>References</h1>

<ul>
<li>The Popper-Miller theorem. See the <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/302687a0" rel="nofollow">original paper</a> </li>
<li>David&#39;s 2021 talk on the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ-opI-jghs" rel="nofollow">correspondence theory of truth</a> </li>
<li>David&#39;s talk on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfzSE4Hoxbc" rel="nofollow">physics without probability</a>. </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven_paradox" rel="nofollow">Hempel&#39;s paradox</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Infinity-Explanations-Transform-World/dp/0143121359" rel="nofollow">The Beginning of Infinity</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.ca/Knowledge-Body-Mind-Problem-Defence-Interaction/dp/0415135567" rel="nofollow">Knowledge and the Body-Mind Problem</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>Socials</h1>

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani, @DavidDeutschOxf</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>Believe in us and get exclusive bonus content by becoming a patreon subscriber <a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations <a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</li>
<li>Click dem like buttons on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow">youtube</a></li>
</ul>

<p>What&#39;s the truth about your belief on the probability of useful statistics? Tell us over at <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a>. </p><p>Special Guest: David Deutsch.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>What do you do when one of your intellectual idols comes on the podcast? Bombard them with disagreements of course. We were thrilled to have David Deutsch on the podcast to discuss whether the concept of belief is a useful lens on human cognition, when probability and statistics should be deployed, and whether he disagrees with Karl Popper on abstractions, the truth, and nothing but the truth. </p>

<p>Follow David on Twitter (@DavidDeutschOxf) or find his website <a href="https://www.daviddeutsch.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. </p>

<h1>We discuss</h1>

<ul>
<li>Whether belief is a fruitful lens through which to analyze ideas </li>
<li>Whether a non-quantitative form of belief can be defended </li>
<li>How does belief bottom out epistemologically? </li>
<li>Whether statistics and probability are useful </li>
<li>Where should statistics and probability be used in practice? </li>
<li>The Popper-Miller theorem</li>
<li>Statements vs propositions and their relevance for truth </li>
<li>Whether Popper and Deutsch disagree about truth </li>
</ul>

<h1>References</h1>

<ul>
<li>The Popper-Miller theorem. See the <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/302687a0" rel="nofollow">original paper</a> </li>
<li>David&#39;s 2021 talk on the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ-opI-jghs" rel="nofollow">correspondence theory of truth</a> </li>
<li>David&#39;s talk on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfzSE4Hoxbc" rel="nofollow">physics without probability</a>. </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven_paradox" rel="nofollow">Hempel&#39;s paradox</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Infinity-Explanations-Transform-World/dp/0143121359" rel="nofollow">The Beginning of Infinity</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.ca/Knowledge-Body-Mind-Problem-Defence-Interaction/dp/0415135567" rel="nofollow">Knowledge and the Body-Mind Problem</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>Socials</h1>

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani, @DavidDeutschOxf</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>Believe in us and get exclusive bonus content by becoming a patreon subscriber <a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations <a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</li>
<li>Click dem like buttons on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow">youtube</a></li>
</ul>

<p>What&#39;s the truth about your belief on the probability of useful statistics? Tell us over at <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a>. </p><p>Special Guest: David Deutsch.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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