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    <title>Increments - Episodes Tagged with “Reason”</title>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 10:15:00 -0700</pubDate>
    <description>Vaden Masrani, a senior research scientist in machine learning, and Ben Chugg, a PhD student in statistics, get into trouble arguing about everything except machine learning and statistics. Coherence is somewhere on the horizon. Bribes, suggestions, love-mail and hate-mail all welcome at incrementspodcast@gmail.com.</description>
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    <itunes:author>Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>Vaden Masrani, a senior research scientist in machine learning, and Ben Chugg, a PhD student in statistics, get into trouble arguing about everything except machine learning and statistics. Coherence is somewhere on the horizon. Bribes, suggestions, love-mail and hate-mail all welcome at incrementspodcast@gmail.com.</itunes:summary>
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      <itunes:name>Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani</itunes:name>
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  <title>#87 - Gullibility, Belief, and Conformity (with Hugo Mercier)</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 10:15:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Hugo Mercier joins us to discuss his book "Not Born Yesterday" and his work on belief, gullibility, and how we change our minds. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>54:13</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Ben and Vaden test their French skills and have Hugo Mercier on the podcast to discuss who we trust and what we believe. Are humans gullible? Do we fall for propaganda and advertising campaigns? Do we follow expert consensus or forge ahead as independent thinkers? Can Vaden go for one episode without bringing up Trump? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://sites.google.com/site/hugomercier/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Hugo Mercier&lt;/a&gt; is a research director at the CNRS (Institut Jean Nicod, Paris), where he work with the Evolution and Social Cognition team. Check out his two books: &lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/Enigma-Reason-Hugo-Mercier/dp/0674368304" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Enigma of Reason&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0691208921" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Not Born Yesterday&lt;/a&gt; . &lt;/p&gt;

We discuss

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mercier's thoughts on the cognitive bias literature&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Open vigilance mechanisms&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Criticism of the System 1 vs System 2 dichotomy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Why Kahneman misinterpreted the bat and the ball thought experiment&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Do flat earthers really believe the earth is flat?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Asch conformity experiment &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Preference falsification vs internalization of professed beliefs &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How important is social signaling? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Trump, MAGA, gullibility, and Tariffs &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How effective are advertisements? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How effective is propaganda? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Is social science reforming? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

References

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/Enigma-Reason-Hugo-Mercier/dp/0674368304" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Enigma of Reason&lt;/a&gt; by Hugo Mercier and Dan Sperber &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0691208921" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Not Born Yesterday&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Our previous episodes on &lt;a href="https://www.incrementspodcast.com/84" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Not Born Yesterday&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://www.incrementspodcast.com/39" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Enigma of Reason&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

Socials

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Follow us on Twitter at @hugoreasoning, @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Become a patreon subscriber&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Click dem like buttons on&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;youtube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How much system 2 thinking does it take to misunderstand system 1 vs system 2? Tell us at &lt;a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;incrementspodcast@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;  Special Guest: Hugo Mercier.&lt;/p&gt;
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  <itunes:keywords>reason, rationality, belief, information, communication, trust</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Ben and Vaden test their French skills and have Hugo Mercier on the podcast to discuss who we trust and what we believe. Are humans gullible? Do we fall for propaganda and advertising campaigns? Do we follow expert consensus or forge ahead as independent thinkers? Can Vaden go for one episode without bringing up Trump? </p>

<p><a href="https://sites.google.com/site/hugomercier/" rel="nofollow noopener">Hugo Mercier</a> is a research director at the CNRS (Institut Jean Nicod, Paris), where he work with the Evolution and Social Cognition team. Check out his two books: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Enigma-Reason-Hugo-Mercier/dp/0674368304" rel="nofollow noopener">The Enigma of Reason</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0691208921" rel="nofollow noopener">Not Born Yesterday</a> . </p>

We discuss

<ul>
<li>Mercier's thoughts on the cognitive bias literature</li>
<li>Open vigilance mechanisms</li>
<li>Criticism of the System 1 vs System 2 dichotomy</li>
<li>Why Kahneman misinterpreted the bat and the ball thought experiment</li>
<li>Do flat earthers really believe the earth is flat?</li>
<li>The Asch conformity experiment </li>
<li>Preference falsification vs internalization of professed beliefs </li>
<li>How important is social signaling? </li>
<li>Trump, MAGA, gullibility, and Tariffs </li>
<li>How effective are advertisements? </li>
<li>How effective is propaganda? </li>
<li>Is social science reforming? </li>
</ul>

References

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Enigma-Reason-Hugo-Mercier/dp/0674368304" rel="nofollow noopener">The Enigma of Reason</a> by Hugo Mercier and Dan Sperber </li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0691208921" rel="nofollow noopener">Not Born Yesterday</a><br></li>
<li>Our previous episodes on <a href="https://www.incrementspodcast.com/84" rel="nofollow noopener">Not Born Yesterday</a> and <a href="https://www.incrementspodcast.com/39" rel="nofollow noopener">The Enigma of Reason</a> </li>
</ul>

Socials

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @hugoreasoning, @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>Become a patreon subscriber&nbsp;<a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow noopener">here</a>. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations&nbsp;<a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow noopener">here</a>.</li>
<li>Click dem like buttons on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow noopener">youtube</a></li>
</ul>

<p>How much system 2 thinking does it take to misunderstand system 1 vs system 2? Tell us at <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a> </p><p>Special Guest: Hugo Mercier.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Ben and Vaden test their French skills and have Hugo Mercier on the podcast to discuss who we trust and what we believe. Are humans gullible? Do we fall for propaganda and advertising campaigns? Do we follow expert consensus or forge ahead as independent thinkers? Can Vaden go for one episode without bringing up Trump? </p>

<p><a href="https://sites.google.com/site/hugomercier/" rel="nofollow noopener">Hugo Mercier</a> is a research director at the CNRS (Institut Jean Nicod, Paris), where he work with the Evolution and Social Cognition team. Check out his two books: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Enigma-Reason-Hugo-Mercier/dp/0674368304" rel="nofollow noopener">The Enigma of Reason</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0691208921" rel="nofollow noopener">Not Born Yesterday</a> . </p>

We discuss

<ul>
<li>Mercier's thoughts on the cognitive bias literature</li>
<li>Open vigilance mechanisms</li>
<li>Criticism of the System 1 vs System 2 dichotomy</li>
<li>Why Kahneman misinterpreted the bat and the ball thought experiment</li>
<li>Do flat earthers really believe the earth is flat?</li>
<li>The Asch conformity experiment </li>
<li>Preference falsification vs internalization of professed beliefs </li>
<li>How important is social signaling? </li>
<li>Trump, MAGA, gullibility, and Tariffs </li>
<li>How effective are advertisements? </li>
<li>How effective is propaganda? </li>
<li>Is social science reforming? </li>
</ul>

References

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Enigma-Reason-Hugo-Mercier/dp/0674368304" rel="nofollow noopener">The Enigma of Reason</a> by Hugo Mercier and Dan Sperber </li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0691208921" rel="nofollow noopener">Not Born Yesterday</a><br></li>
<li>Our previous episodes on <a href="https://www.incrementspodcast.com/84" rel="nofollow noopener">Not Born Yesterday</a> and <a href="https://www.incrementspodcast.com/39" rel="nofollow noopener">The Enigma of Reason</a> </li>
</ul>

Socials

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @hugoreasoning, @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>Become a patreon subscriber&nbsp;<a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow noopener">here</a>. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations&nbsp;<a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow noopener">here</a>.</li>
<li>Click dem like buttons on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow noopener">youtube</a></li>
</ul>

<p>How much system 2 thinking does it take to misunderstand system 1 vs system 2? Tell us at <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a> </p><p>Special Guest: Hugo Mercier.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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  <title>#84 - A Primer on Not Born Yesterday by Hugo Mercier</title>
  <link>https://www.incrementspodcast.com/84</link>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2025 14:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>A discussion on Hugo Mercier's Not Born Yesterday. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:09:39</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Some thoughts (arguments?) on &lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/Not-Born-Yesterday-Science-Believe/dp/0691178704" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Hugo Mercier's Not Born Yesterday&lt;/a&gt;, which advances the thesis that humans are not as gullible as is commonly thought. This is our second episode on Mercier's work, and we're as intrigued as ever. But this time we have different interpretations of his thesis, so it's a good thing the man himself is coming on soon to sort us out. &lt;/p&gt;

We discuss

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;If humans are less gullible than is commonly believed &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Evolution of Communication Theory&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gazelles jumping in the air &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Are humans too stubborn? Is one of your hosts who shall go unnamed too stubborn? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;When do humans actually change their minds? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Does Mercier's work conflict with Popper?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How much of our reasoning is motivated reasoning? How much is social conformity? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

Socials

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Become a patreon subscriber&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Click dem like buttons on&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;youtube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Did you know that "gullible" isn't in the dictionary? Tell us at &lt;a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;incrementspodcast@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>mercier, reason, social, gullibility</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>Some thoughts (arguments?) on <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Not-Born-Yesterday-Science-Believe/dp/0691178704" rel="nofollow noopener">Hugo Mercier's Not Born Yesterday</a>, which advances the thesis that humans are not as gullible as is commonly thought. This is our second episode on Mercier's work, and we're as intrigued as ever. But this time we have different interpretations of his thesis, so it's a good thing the man himself is coming on soon to sort us out. </p>

We discuss

<ul>
<li>If humans are less gullible than is commonly believed </li>
<li>Evolution of Communication Theory</li>
<li>Gazelles jumping in the air </li>
<li>Are humans too stubborn? Is one of your hosts who shall go unnamed too stubborn? </li>
<li>When do humans actually change their minds? </li>
<li>Does Mercier's work conflict with Popper?</li>
<li>How much of our reasoning is motivated reasoning? How much is social conformity? </li>
</ul>

Socials

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>Become a patreon subscriber&nbsp;<a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow noopener">here</a>. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations&nbsp;<a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow noopener">here</a>.</li>
<li>Click dem like buttons on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow noopener">youtube</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Did you know that "gullible" isn't in the dictionary? Tell us at <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a>. </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Some thoughts (arguments?) on <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Not-Born-Yesterday-Science-Believe/dp/0691178704" rel="nofollow noopener">Hugo Mercier's Not Born Yesterday</a>, which advances the thesis that humans are not as gullible as is commonly thought. This is our second episode on Mercier's work, and we're as intrigued as ever. But this time we have different interpretations of his thesis, so it's a good thing the man himself is coming on soon to sort us out. </p>

We discuss

<ul>
<li>If humans are less gullible than is commonly believed </li>
<li>Evolution of Communication Theory</li>
<li>Gazelles jumping in the air </li>
<li>Are humans too stubborn? Is one of your hosts who shall go unnamed too stubborn? </li>
<li>When do humans actually change their minds? </li>
<li>Does Mercier's work conflict with Popper?</li>
<li>How much of our reasoning is motivated reasoning? How much is social conformity? </li>
</ul>

Socials

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>Become a patreon subscriber&nbsp;<a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow noopener">here</a>. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations&nbsp;<a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow noopener">here</a>.</li>
<li>Click dem like buttons on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow noopener">youtube</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Did you know that "gullible" isn't in the dictionary? Tell us at <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a>. </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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  <title>#39 - The Enigma of Reason</title>
  <link>https://www.incrementspodcast.com/39</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2022 18:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>A discussion of The Enigma of Reason by Hugo Mercier and Dan Sperber. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:01:59</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;The most reasonable and well-reasoned discussion of reason you can be reasonably expected to hear. Today we talk about the book &lt;em&gt;The Enigma of Reason&lt;/em&gt; by Dan Sperber and Hugo Mercier. But first, get ready for dogs, modern art, and babies! &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;*&lt;em&gt;We discuss *&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Reason as a social phenomenon &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The two roles of reason: To justify our actions, and to evaluate the reasons of others &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Reason as module of inference, and how that contrasts with dual-process theories &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The "intellectualist" vs the "interactionist" approach to reason &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nassim Taleb's notion of "skin in the game" &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The consequences of reason having evolved in a particular (social) niche &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The marshmallow test and other debunked psychological findings &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The interactionist approach, on the other hand, makes two contrasting predictions. In the production of arguments, we should be biased and lazy; in the evaluation of arguments, we should be demanding and objective— demanding so as not to be deceived by poor or fallacious arguments into accepting false ideas, objective so as to be ready to revise our ideas when presented with good reasons why we should. &lt;br&gt;
EoR (pg. 332)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In our interactionist approach, the normal conditions for the use of reasoning are social, and more specifically dialogic. Outside of this environment, there is no guarantee that reasoning acts for the benefits of the reasoner. It might lead to epistemic distortions and poor decisions. This does not mean reasoning is broken, simply that it has been taken out of its normal conditions. &lt;br&gt;
EoR (pg. 247)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;References&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dan Sperber's &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXsjWo6K4w0" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;talk&lt;/a&gt; at the Santa Fe Institute&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Image credit: &lt;a href="https://www.theguardian.com/culture/charlottehigginsblog/2009/oct/20/classics-barack-obama" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.theguardian.com/culture/charlottehigginsblog/2009/oct/20/classics-barack-obama&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

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    <![CDATA[<p>The most reasonable and well-reasoned discussion of reason you can be reasonably expected to hear. Today we talk about the book <em>The Enigma of Reason</em> by Dan Sperber and Hugo Mercier. But first, get ready for dogs, modern art, and babies! </p>

<p>*<em>We discuss *</em></p>

<ul>
<li>Reason as a social phenomenon </li>
<li>The two roles of reason: To justify our actions, and to evaluate the reasons of others </li>
<li>Reason as module of inference, and how that contrasts with dual-process theories </li>
<li>The "intellectualist" vs the "interactionist" approach to reason </li>
<li>Nassim Taleb's notion of "skin in the game" </li>
<li>The consequences of reason having evolved in a particular (social) niche </li>
<li>The marshmallow test and other debunked psychological findings </li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Quotes</strong>: </p>

<blockquote>
<p>The interactionist approach, on the other hand, makes two contrasting predictions. In the production of arguments, we should be biased and lazy; in the evaluation of arguments, we should be demanding and objective— demanding so as not to be deceived by poor or fallacious arguments into accepting false ideas, objective so as to be ready to revise our ideas when presented with good reasons why we should. <br>
EoR (pg. 332)</p>

<p>In our interactionist approach, the normal conditions for the use of reasoning are social, and more specifically dialogic. Outside of this environment, there is no guarantee that reasoning acts for the benefits of the reasoner. It might lead to epistemic distortions and poor decisions. This does not mean reasoning is broken, simply that it has been taken out of its normal conditions. <br>
EoR (pg. 247)</p>
</blockquote>

<p><strong>References</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Dan Sperber's <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXsjWo6K4w0" rel="nofollow noopener">talk</a> at the Santa Fe Institute</li>
<li>Image credit: <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/culture/charlottehigginsblog/2009/oct/20/classics-barack-obama" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.theguardian.com/culture/charlottehigginsblog/2009/oct/20/classics-barack-obama</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Social media everywhere</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani</li>
<li>Check us out on youtube at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ</a></li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
</ul>

<p>Send a reason, any reason, any reason at all, to <em><a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a></em>. </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>The most reasonable and well-reasoned discussion of reason you can be reasonably expected to hear. Today we talk about the book <em>The Enigma of Reason</em> by Dan Sperber and Hugo Mercier. But first, get ready for dogs, modern art, and babies! </p>

<p>*<em>We discuss *</em></p>

<ul>
<li>Reason as a social phenomenon </li>
<li>The two roles of reason: To justify our actions, and to evaluate the reasons of others </li>
<li>Reason as module of inference, and how that contrasts with dual-process theories </li>
<li>The "intellectualist" vs the "interactionist" approach to reason </li>
<li>Nassim Taleb's notion of "skin in the game" </li>
<li>The consequences of reason having evolved in a particular (social) niche </li>
<li>The marshmallow test and other debunked psychological findings </li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Quotes</strong>: </p>

<blockquote>
<p>The interactionist approach, on the other hand, makes two contrasting predictions. In the production of arguments, we should be biased and lazy; in the evaluation of arguments, we should be demanding and objective— demanding so as not to be deceived by poor or fallacious arguments into accepting false ideas, objective so as to be ready to revise our ideas when presented with good reasons why we should. <br>
EoR (pg. 332)</p>

<p>In our interactionist approach, the normal conditions for the use of reasoning are social, and more specifically dialogic. Outside of this environment, there is no guarantee that reasoning acts for the benefits of the reasoner. It might lead to epistemic distortions and poor decisions. This does not mean reasoning is broken, simply that it has been taken out of its normal conditions. <br>
EoR (pg. 247)</p>
</blockquote>

<p><strong>References</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Dan Sperber's <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXsjWo6K4w0" rel="nofollow noopener">talk</a> at the Santa Fe Institute</li>
<li>Image credit: <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/culture/charlottehigginsblog/2009/oct/20/classics-barack-obama" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.theguardian.com/culture/charlottehigginsblog/2009/oct/20/classics-barack-obama</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Social media everywhere</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani</li>
<li>Check us out on youtube at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ</a></li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
</ul>

<p>Send a reason, any reason, any reason at all, to <em><a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a></em>. </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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