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    <description>Vaden Masrani, a senior research scientist in machine learning, and Ben Chugg, a PhD student in statistics, get into trouble arguing about everything except machine learning and statistics. Coherence is somewhere on the horizon. 
Bribes, suggestions, love-mail and hate-mail all welcome at incrementspodcast@gmail.com. 
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  <title>#55 - Is all thought problem-solving? </title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>We return to the argument from last episode: Is all thought problem-solving? This epic showdown might catalyze the next world war, listen accordingly. </itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Our argument at the end of last episode spilled over into discord, DMs, and world news, so we felt compelled to dedicate a full episode to addressing the question "Is all thought problem solving?" Some arguments make history, like whether atomic bombs were required in WWII, whether all philosophy is simply a language game, and whether the chicken did indeed come before the egg. Will this be one of them? 
We cover: 
- How Vaden listens to podcasts and why he thinks Andrew Huberman sucks (but studies show that Andrew Huberman is great!) 
- Popper's evolutionary take on problem-solving 
- Problems defined as "disappointed expectations"
- Whether all volitional thought is problem-solving 
- Are irrefutable theories ever valuable, or should they all be discarded a-priori? 
References
All life is problem-solving (https://www.amazon.com/Life-Problem-Solving-Karl-Popper/dp/0415249929)
In Search of a Better World (https://www.amazon.ca/Search-Better-World-Lectures-Essays/dp/0415135486)
Episode 51 of Increments (https://www.incrementspodcast.com/51), where we discuss "implicit definitions". 
Quotes
Men, animals, plants, even unicellular organisms are constantly active. They are trying to improve their situation, or at least to avoid its deterioration. Even when asleep, the organism is actively maintaining the state of sleep: the depth (or else the shallowness) of sleep is a condition actively created by the organism, which sustains sleep (or else keeps the organism on the alert). Every organism is constantly preoccupied with the task of solving prob- lems. These problems arise from its own assessments of its condition and of its environment; conditions which the organism seeks to improve.
- In Search Of A Better World, p.vii
At bottom, this procedure seems to be the only logical one. It is also the procedure that a lower organism, even a single-cell amoeba, uses when trying to solve a problem. In this case we speak of testing movements through which the organism tries to rid itself of a troublesome problem. Higher organisms are able to learn through trial and error how a certain problem should be solved. We may say that they too make testing movements - mental testings - and that to learn is essentially to tryout one testing movement after another until one is found that solves the problem. We might compare the animal's successful solution to an expectation and hence to a hypothesis or a theory. For the animal's behaviour shows us that it expects (perhaps unconsciously or dispositionally) that in a similar case the same testing movements will again solve the problem in question.
The behaviour of animals, and of plants too, shows that organisms are geared to laws or regularities. They expect laws or regularities in their surroundings, and I conjecture that most of these expectations are genetically determined - which is to say that they are innate.
- All Life is Problem Solving, p.3
Socials
Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani
Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link
Solve all our problems and get exclusive bonus content by becoming a patreon subscriber here (https://www.patreon.com/Increments)
Toss us some coin over hur (patreon subscription approach (https://www.patreon.com/Increments/posts) or the ko-fi, the "just give us cash you animals" approach (https://ko-fi.com/increments)), and click dem like buttons on youtube over hur (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ).
Do studies show that Ben or Vaden is correct? Tell us at incrementspodcast@gmail.com
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    <![CDATA[<p>Our argument at the end of last episode spilled over into discord, DMs, and world news, so we felt compelled to dedicate a full episode to addressing the question &quot;Is all thought problem solving?&quot; Some arguments make history, like whether atomic bombs were required in WWII, whether all philosophy is simply a language game, and whether the chicken did indeed come before the egg. Will this be one of them? </p>

<p>We cover: </p>

<ul>
<li>How Vaden listens to podcasts and why he thinks Andrew Huberman sucks (but studies show that Andrew Huberman is great!) </li>
<li>Popper&#39;s evolutionary take on problem-solving </li>
<li>Problems defined as &quot;disappointed expectations&quot;</li>
<li>Whether all <em>volitional</em> thought is problem-solving </li>
<li>Are irrefutable theories ever valuable, or should they all be discarded a-priori? </li>
</ul>

<h1>References</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Life-Problem-Solving-Karl-Popper/dp/0415249929" rel="nofollow">All life is problem-solving</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.ca/Search-Better-World-Lectures-Essays/dp/0415135486" rel="nofollow">In Search of a Better World</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.incrementspodcast.com/51" rel="nofollow">Episode 51 of Increments</a>, where we discuss &quot;implicit definitions&quot;. </li>
</ul>

<h1>Quotes</h1>

<blockquote>
<p>Men, animals, plants, even unicellular organisms are constantly active. They are trying to improve their situation, or at least to avoid its deterioration. Even when asleep, the organism is actively maintaining the state of sleep: the depth (or else the shallowness) of sleep is a condition actively created by the organism, which sustains sleep (or else keeps the organism on the alert). Every organism is constantly preoccupied with the task of solving prob- lems. These problems arise from its own assessments of its condition and of its environment; conditions which the organism seeks to improve.</p>

<ul>
<li>In Search Of A Better World, p.vii</li>
</ul>

<p>At bottom, this procedure seems to be the only logical one. It is also the procedure that a lower organism, even a single-cell amoeba, uses when trying to solve a problem. In this case we speak of testing movements through which the organism tries to rid itself of a troublesome problem. Higher organisms are able to learn through trial and error how a certain problem should be solved. We may say that they too make testing movements - mental testings - and that to learn is essentially to tryout one testing movement after another until one is found that solves the problem. We might compare the animal&#39;s successful solution to an expectation and hence to a hypothesis or a theory. For the animal&#39;s behaviour shows us that it expects (perhaps unconsciously or dispositionally) that in a similar case the same testing movements will again solve the problem in question.</p>

<p>The behaviour of animals, and of plants too, shows that organisms are geared to laws or regularities. They expect laws or regularities in their surroundings, and I conjecture that most of these expectations are genetically determined - which is to say that they are innate.</p>

<ul>
<li>All Life is Problem Solving, p.3</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>

<h1>Socials</h1>

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>Solve all our problems and get exclusive bonus content by becoming a patreon subscriber <a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow">here</a></li>
<li>Toss us some coin over hur (<a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments/posts" rel="nofollow">patreon subscription approach</a> or the <a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow">ko-fi, the &quot;just give us cash you animals&quot; approach</a>), and click dem like buttons on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow">youtube over hur</a>.</li>
</ul>

<p>Do studies show that Ben or Vaden is correct? Tell us at <em><a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a></em></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Our argument at the end of last episode spilled over into discord, DMs, and world news, so we felt compelled to dedicate a full episode to addressing the question &quot;Is all thought problem solving?&quot; Some arguments make history, like whether atomic bombs were required in WWII, whether all philosophy is simply a language game, and whether the chicken did indeed come before the egg. Will this be one of them? </p>

<p>We cover: </p>

<ul>
<li>How Vaden listens to podcasts and why he thinks Andrew Huberman sucks (but studies show that Andrew Huberman is great!) </li>
<li>Popper&#39;s evolutionary take on problem-solving </li>
<li>Problems defined as &quot;disappointed expectations&quot;</li>
<li>Whether all <em>volitional</em> thought is problem-solving </li>
<li>Are irrefutable theories ever valuable, or should they all be discarded a-priori? </li>
</ul>

<h1>References</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Life-Problem-Solving-Karl-Popper/dp/0415249929" rel="nofollow">All life is problem-solving</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.ca/Search-Better-World-Lectures-Essays/dp/0415135486" rel="nofollow">In Search of a Better World</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.incrementspodcast.com/51" rel="nofollow">Episode 51 of Increments</a>, where we discuss &quot;implicit definitions&quot;. </li>
</ul>

<h1>Quotes</h1>

<blockquote>
<p>Men, animals, plants, even unicellular organisms are constantly active. They are trying to improve their situation, or at least to avoid its deterioration. Even when asleep, the organism is actively maintaining the state of sleep: the depth (or else the shallowness) of sleep is a condition actively created by the organism, which sustains sleep (or else keeps the organism on the alert). Every organism is constantly preoccupied with the task of solving prob- lems. These problems arise from its own assessments of its condition and of its environment; conditions which the organism seeks to improve.</p>

<ul>
<li>In Search Of A Better World, p.vii</li>
</ul>

<p>At bottom, this procedure seems to be the only logical one. It is also the procedure that a lower organism, even a single-cell amoeba, uses when trying to solve a problem. In this case we speak of testing movements through which the organism tries to rid itself of a troublesome problem. Higher organisms are able to learn through trial and error how a certain problem should be solved. We may say that they too make testing movements - mental testings - and that to learn is essentially to tryout one testing movement after another until one is found that solves the problem. We might compare the animal&#39;s successful solution to an expectation and hence to a hypothesis or a theory. For the animal&#39;s behaviour shows us that it expects (perhaps unconsciously or dispositionally) that in a similar case the same testing movements will again solve the problem in question.</p>

<p>The behaviour of animals, and of plants too, shows that organisms are geared to laws or regularities. They expect laws or regularities in their surroundings, and I conjecture that most of these expectations are genetically determined - which is to say that they are innate.</p>

<ul>
<li>All Life is Problem Solving, p.3</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>

<h1>Socials</h1>

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>Solve all our problems and get exclusive bonus content by becoming a patreon subscriber <a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow">here</a></li>
<li>Toss us some coin over hur (<a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments/posts" rel="nofollow">patreon subscription approach</a> or the <a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow">ko-fi, the &quot;just give us cash you animals&quot; approach</a>), and click dem like buttons on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow">youtube over hur</a>.</li>
</ul>

<p>Do studies show that Ben or Vaden is correct? Tell us at <em><a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a></em></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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  <title>#54 - Ask Us Anything III: Emotional Epistemology</title>
  <link>https://www.incrementspodcast.com/54</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2023 12:30:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>The third of infinite installments in our ask us anything series. We touch on universality, emotions, epistemology, and whether all thinking is problem solving. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:18:26</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Back again with AUA #3 - we're getting there people! Only, uhh, seven questions to go? Incremental progress baby. Plus, we see a good old Vaden and Ben fight in this one! Thank God, because things were getting a little stale with Vaden hammering on longtermism and Ben on cliodynamics. We cover: 
Is hypnosis a real thing?
Types of universality contained within the genetic code 
Pressures associated with turning political/philosophical ideas into personal identities 
How do emotions/feelings interface with our rational/logical mind? How should they? 
Vaden's (hopefully one-off) experience with Bipolar Type-1 and psychosis
Is problem solving the sole purpose of thinking? Vaden says yes (with many caveats!) and Ben says wtf no you fool. Then we argue about how to watch TV.
Questions
(Neil Hudson) Are there any theories as to the type of universality achievable via the genetic code (in BOI it is presumed to fall short of coding for all possible life forms)?
(Neil Hudson) Wd be gd to get your take on: riffing on the Sperber/Mercier social thesis v. individual, if one is scarce private space/time then the need to constantly avow one’s public identity may “swamp” the critical evaluation of arguments one hears? Goes to seeking truth v status
(Arun Kannan) What are your thoughts on inexplicit knowledge (David Deutsch jargon) and more broadly emotions/feelings in the mind ? How do these interplay with explicit ideas / thoughts ? What should we prioritize ? If we don't prioritize one over the other, how to resolve conflicts between them ? Any tips, literature, Popperian wisdom you can share on this ?
(Tom Nassis) Is the sole purpose of all forms of thinking problem-solving? Or can thinking have purposes other than solving a problem?
Quotes
Reach always has an explanation. But this time, to the best of my knowledge, the explanation is not yet known. If the reason for the jump in reach was that it was a jump to universality, what was the universality? The genetic code is presumably not universal for specifying life forms, since it relies on specific types of chemicals, such as proteins. Could it be a universal constructor? Perhaps. It does manage to build with inorganic materials sometimes, such as the calcium phosphate in bones, or the magnetite in the navigation system inside a pigeon’s brain. Biotechnologists are already using it to manufacture hydrogen and to extract uranium from seawater. It can also program organisms to perform constructions outside their bodies: birds build nests; beavers build dams. Perhaps it would it be possible to specify, in the genetic code, an organism whose life cycle includes building a nuclear-powered spaceship. Or perhaps not. I guess it has some lesser, and not yet understood, universality.
In 1994 the computer scientist and molecular biologist Leonard Adleman designed and built a computer composed of DNA together with some simple enzymes, and demonstrated that it was capable of performing some sophisticated computations. At the time, Adleman’s DNA computer was arguably the fastest computer in the world. Further, it was clear that a universal classical computer could be made in a similar way. Hence we know that, whatever that other universality of the DNA system was, the universality of computation had also been inherent in it for billions of years, without ever being used – until Adleman used it.
Beginning of Infinity, p.158 (emph added) 
References
Derren brown makes people forget their stop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kSq7dPlw0A)
Bari Weiss's conversation (https://open.spotify.com/episode/2WvW8VnfzwIM155NcFXwe5) with Freddie deBoer on psychosis, bipolar, and mental health. This conversation addresses the New York Times article (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/17/magazine/antipsychotic-medications-mental-health.html) which views having schizophrenia, bipolar, etc as no better or worse than not having schizophrenia, bipolar, etc. Also contains Vaden's favorite euphemism of 2022: "Nonconsensus Realities"
Sad existentialist cat (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBjU3Ii7lfs)
Send Vaden an email with a thought you have not designed to solve a problem at incrementspodcast.com 
Socials
Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani
Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link
Toss us some coin over hur (patreon subscription approach (https://www.patreon.com/Increments/posts) or the ko-fi, just give us cash you animal approach (https://ko-fi.com/increments)), and click dem like buttons on youtube over hur (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ). 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>ask-us-anything, universality, emotions, epistemology, problem-solving, thinking</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>Back again with AUA #3 - we&#39;re getting there people! Only, uhh, seven questions to go? Incremental progress baby. Plus, we see a good old Vaden and Ben fight in this one! Thank God, because things were getting a little stale with Vaden hammering on longtermism and Ben on cliodynamics. We cover: </p>

<ul>
<li>Is hypnosis a real thing?</li>
<li>Types of universality contained within the genetic code </li>
<li>Pressures associated with turning political/philosophical ideas into personal identities </li>
<li>How do emotions/feelings interface with our rational/logical mind? How <em>should</em> they? </li>
<li>Vaden&#39;s (hopefully one-off) experience with Bipolar Type-1 and psychosis</li>
<li>Is problem solving the sole purpose of thinking? Vaden says yes (with many caveats!) and Ben says wtf no you fool. Then we argue about how to watch TV.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Questions</h1>

<ol>
<li><p><strong>(Neil Hudson)</strong> Are there any theories as to the type of universality achievable via the genetic code (in BOI it is presumed to fall short of coding for all possible life forms)?</p></li>
<li><p><strong>(Neil Hudson)</strong> Wd be gd to get your take on: riffing on the Sperber/Mercier social thesis v. individual, if one is scarce private space/time then the need to constantly avow one’s public identity may “swamp” the critical evaluation of arguments one hears? Goes to seeking truth v status</p></li>
<li><p><strong>(Arun Kannan)</strong> What are your thoughts on inexplicit knowledge (David Deutsch jargon) and more broadly emotions/feelings in the mind ? How do these interplay with explicit ideas / thoughts ? What should we prioritize ? If we don&#39;t prioritize one over the other, how to resolve conflicts between them ? Any tips, literature, Popperian wisdom you can share on this ?</p></li>
<li><p><strong>(Tom Nassis)</strong> Is the sole purpose of all forms of thinking problem-solving? Or can thinking have purposes other than solving a problem?</p></li>
</ol>

<h1>Quotes</h1>

<blockquote>
<p><em>Reach always has an explanation. But this time, to the best of my knowledge, the explanation is not yet known. If the reason for the jump in reach was that it was a jump to universality, what was the universality? The genetic code is presumably not universal <strong>for specifying life forms</strong>, since it relies on specific types of chemicals, such as proteins. Could it be a universal constructor? Perhaps. It does manage to build with inorganic materials sometimes, such as the calcium phosphate in bones, or the magnetite in the navigation system inside a pigeon’s brain. Biotechnologists are already using it to manufacture hydrogen and to extract uranium from seawater. It can also program organisms to perform constructions outside their bodies: birds build nests; beavers build dams. <strong>Perhaps it would it be possible to specify, in the genetic code, an organism whose life cycle includes building a nuclear-powered spaceship. Or perhaps not. I guess it has some lesser, and not yet understood, universality.</strong></em></p>

<p><em>In 1994 the computer scientist and molecular biologist Leonard Adleman designed and built a computer composed of DNA together with some simple enzymes, and demonstrated that it was capable of performing some sophisticated computations. At the time, Adleman’s DNA computer was arguably the fastest computer in the world. Further, it was clear that a universal classical computer could be made in a similar way. <strong>Hence we know that, whatever that other universality of the DNA system was, the universality of computation had also been inherent in it for billions of years, without ever being used – until Adleman used it.</strong></em></p>

<p>Beginning of Infinity, p.158 (emph added) </p>
</blockquote>

<h1>References</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kSq7dPlw0A" rel="nofollow">Derren brown makes people forget their stop</a></li>
<li>Bari Weiss&#39;s <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/2WvW8VnfzwIM155NcFXwe5" rel="nofollow">conversation</a> with Freddie deBoer on psychosis, bipolar, and mental health. This conversation addresses the New York Times <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/17/magazine/antipsychotic-medications-mental-health.html" rel="nofollow">article</a> which views having schizophrenia, bipolar, etc as no better or worse than not having schizophrenia, bipolar, etc. Also contains Vaden&#39;s favorite euphemism of 2022: &quot;Nonconsensus Realities&quot;</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBjU3Ii7lfs" rel="nofollow">Sad existentialist cat</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Send Vaden an email with a thought you have not designed to solve a problem at incrementspodcast.com </p>

<h1>Socials</h1>

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>Toss us some coin over hur (<a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments/posts" rel="nofollow">patreon subscription approach</a> or the <a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow">ko-fi, just give us cash you animal approach</a>), and click dem like buttons on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow">youtube over hur</a>. </li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Back again with AUA #3 - we&#39;re getting there people! Only, uhh, seven questions to go? Incremental progress baby. Plus, we see a good old Vaden and Ben fight in this one! Thank God, because things were getting a little stale with Vaden hammering on longtermism and Ben on cliodynamics. We cover: </p>

<ul>
<li>Is hypnosis a real thing?</li>
<li>Types of universality contained within the genetic code </li>
<li>Pressures associated with turning political/philosophical ideas into personal identities </li>
<li>How do emotions/feelings interface with our rational/logical mind? How <em>should</em> they? </li>
<li>Vaden&#39;s (hopefully one-off) experience with Bipolar Type-1 and psychosis</li>
<li>Is problem solving the sole purpose of thinking? Vaden says yes (with many caveats!) and Ben says wtf no you fool. Then we argue about how to watch TV.</li>
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<h1>Questions</h1>

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<li><p><strong>(Neil Hudson)</strong> Are there any theories as to the type of universality achievable via the genetic code (in BOI it is presumed to fall short of coding for all possible life forms)?</p></li>
<li><p><strong>(Neil Hudson)</strong> Wd be gd to get your take on: riffing on the Sperber/Mercier social thesis v. individual, if one is scarce private space/time then the need to constantly avow one’s public identity may “swamp” the critical evaluation of arguments one hears? Goes to seeking truth v status</p></li>
<li><p><strong>(Arun Kannan)</strong> What are your thoughts on inexplicit knowledge (David Deutsch jargon) and more broadly emotions/feelings in the mind ? How do these interplay with explicit ideas / thoughts ? What should we prioritize ? If we don&#39;t prioritize one over the other, how to resolve conflicts between them ? Any tips, literature, Popperian wisdom you can share on this ?</p></li>
<li><p><strong>(Tom Nassis)</strong> Is the sole purpose of all forms of thinking problem-solving? Or can thinking have purposes other than solving a problem?</p></li>
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<h1>Quotes</h1>

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<p><em>Reach always has an explanation. But this time, to the best of my knowledge, the explanation is not yet known. If the reason for the jump in reach was that it was a jump to universality, what was the universality? The genetic code is presumably not universal <strong>for specifying life forms</strong>, since it relies on specific types of chemicals, such as proteins. Could it be a universal constructor? Perhaps. It does manage to build with inorganic materials sometimes, such as the calcium phosphate in bones, or the magnetite in the navigation system inside a pigeon’s brain. Biotechnologists are already using it to manufacture hydrogen and to extract uranium from seawater. It can also program organisms to perform constructions outside their bodies: birds build nests; beavers build dams. <strong>Perhaps it would it be possible to specify, in the genetic code, an organism whose life cycle includes building a nuclear-powered spaceship. Or perhaps not. I guess it has some lesser, and not yet understood, universality.</strong></em></p>

<p><em>In 1994 the computer scientist and molecular biologist Leonard Adleman designed and built a computer composed of DNA together with some simple enzymes, and demonstrated that it was capable of performing some sophisticated computations. At the time, Adleman’s DNA computer was arguably the fastest computer in the world. Further, it was clear that a universal classical computer could be made in a similar way. <strong>Hence we know that, whatever that other universality of the DNA system was, the universality of computation had also been inherent in it for billions of years, without ever being used – until Adleman used it.</strong></em></p>

<p>Beginning of Infinity, p.158 (emph added) </p>
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<h1>References</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kSq7dPlw0A" rel="nofollow">Derren brown makes people forget their stop</a></li>
<li>Bari Weiss&#39;s <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/2WvW8VnfzwIM155NcFXwe5" rel="nofollow">conversation</a> with Freddie deBoer on psychosis, bipolar, and mental health. This conversation addresses the New York Times <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/17/magazine/antipsychotic-medications-mental-health.html" rel="nofollow">article</a> which views having schizophrenia, bipolar, etc as no better or worse than not having schizophrenia, bipolar, etc. Also contains Vaden&#39;s favorite euphemism of 2022: &quot;Nonconsensus Realities&quot;</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBjU3Ii7lfs" rel="nofollow">Sad existentialist cat</a></li>
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