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    <description>Vaden Masrani, a senior research scientist in machine learning, and Ben Chugg, a PhD student in statistics, get into trouble arguing about everything except machine learning and statistics. Coherence is somewhere on the horizon. 
Bribes, suggestions, love-mail and hate-mail all welcome at incrementspodcast@gmail.com. 
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  <title>#77 (Bonus) - AI Doom Debate (w/ Liron Shapira)</title>
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  <description>Back on Liron's Doom Debates podcast! Will we actually get around to the subject of superintelligent AI this time? Is it time to worry about the end of the world? Will Ben and Vaden emotionally recover from the devastating youtube comments from the last episode? 
Follow Liron on twitter (@liron) and check out the Doom Debates youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/@DoomDebates) and podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/doom-debates/id1751366208).  
We discuss
Definitions of "new knowledge" 
The reliance of deep learning on induction 
Can AIs be creative? 
The limits of statistical prediction 
Predictions of what deep learning cannot accomplish 
Can ChatGPT write funny jokes? 
Trends versus principles 
The psychological consequences of doomerism
Socials
Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani, @liron
Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link
The world is going to end soon, might as well get exclusive bonus content by becoming a patreon subscriber here (https://www.patreon.com/Increments). Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations here (https://ko-fi.com/increments).
Click dem like buttons on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ)
Was Vaden's two week anti-debate bro reeducation camp successful? Tell us at incrementspodcast@gmail.com
 Special Guest: Liron Shapira.
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    <![CDATA[<p>Back on Liron&#39;s <strong>Doom Debates</strong> podcast! Will we actually get around to the subject of superintelligent AI this time? Is it time to worry about the end of the world? Will Ben and Vaden emotionally recover from the devastating youtube comments from the last episode? </p>

<p>Follow Liron on twitter (@liron) and check out the Doom Debates <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@DoomDebates" rel="nofollow">youtube channel</a> and <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/doom-debates/id1751366208" rel="nofollow">podcast</a>.  </p>

<h1>We discuss</h1>

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<li>Definitions of &quot;new knowledge&quot; </li>
<li>The reliance of deep learning on induction </li>
<li>Can AIs be creative? </li>
<li>The limits of statistical prediction </li>
<li>Predictions of what deep learning cannot accomplish </li>
<li>Can ChatGPT write funny jokes? </li>
<li>Trends versus principles </li>
<li>The psychological consequences of doomerism</li>
</ul>

<h1>Socials</h1>

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani, @liron</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>The world is going to end soon, might as well get exclusive bonus content by becoming a patreon subscriber <a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations <a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</li>
<li>Click dem like buttons on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow">youtube</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Was Vaden&#39;s two week anti-debate bro reeducation camp successful? Tell us at <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a></p><p>Special Guest: Liron Shapira.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Back on Liron&#39;s <strong>Doom Debates</strong> podcast! Will we actually get around to the subject of superintelligent AI this time? Is it time to worry about the end of the world? Will Ben and Vaden emotionally recover from the devastating youtube comments from the last episode? </p>

<p>Follow Liron on twitter (@liron) and check out the Doom Debates <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@DoomDebates" rel="nofollow">youtube channel</a> and <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/doom-debates/id1751366208" rel="nofollow">podcast</a>.  </p>

<h1>We discuss</h1>

<ul>
<li>Definitions of &quot;new knowledge&quot; </li>
<li>The reliance of deep learning on induction </li>
<li>Can AIs be creative? </li>
<li>The limits of statistical prediction </li>
<li>Predictions of what deep learning cannot accomplish </li>
<li>Can ChatGPT write funny jokes? </li>
<li>Trends versus principles </li>
<li>The psychological consequences of doomerism</li>
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<h1>Socials</h1>

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani, @liron</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>The world is going to end soon, might as well get exclusive bonus content by becoming a patreon subscriber <a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations <a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</li>
<li>Click dem like buttons on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow">youtube</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Was Vaden&#39;s two week anti-debate bro reeducation camp successful? Tell us at <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a></p><p>Special Guest: Liron Shapira.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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