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    <title>Increments - Episodes Tagged with “Knowledge”</title>
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    <pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 14:30:00 -0700</pubDate>
    <description>Vaden Masrani, a senior research scientist in machine learning, and Ben Chugg, a PhD student in statistics, get into trouble arguing about everything except machine learning and statistics. Coherence is somewhere on the horizon. 
Bribes, suggestions, love-mail and hate-mail all welcome at incrementspodcast@gmail.com. 
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    <itunes:subtitle>Science, Philosophy, Epistemology, Mayhem</itunes:subtitle>
    <itunes:author>Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>Vaden Masrani, a senior research scientist in machine learning, and Ben Chugg, a PhD student in statistics, get into trouble arguing about everything except machine learning and statistics. Coherence is somewhere on the horizon. 
Bribes, suggestions, love-mail and hate-mail all welcome at incrementspodcast@gmail.com. 
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  <title>#92 - Confronting the Paradox of Tolerance: Christianity in the age of Trump (w/ Jonathan Rauch)</title>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 14:30:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Jonathan Rauch explains why he's radical incrementalist, how to uphold the constitution of knowledge, and his view on the fight for the heart of Christianity. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:07:09</itunes:duration>
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  <description>We're joined by Jonathan Rauch to discuss what it means to be a radical incrementalist, how to foment revolution on geological timescales, and whether Christianity can be a force for good in politics. Can Jon convince angry-Hitchens-atheist Vaden that Christianity has some benefits? Will both Vaden and Ben be at Sunday prayer? 
Follow Jonathan on his website (https://www.jonathanrauch.com/about.html), at Brookings (https://www.brookings.edu/people/jonathan-rauch/), at The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/author/jonathan-rauch/) or on Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/jonrauch.bsky.social). 
We discuss
The constitution of knowledge and whether it's holding 
Norms vs laws, and whether we should introduce more laws to codify norms 
Popper's paradox of tolerance
How should liberals respond to illiberalism? Which tactics, if any, should democrats adopt from MAGA to fight MAGA?  
Sharp Christianity and Christian nationalism 
Rauch's plea to Christians 
References
The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of Truth (https://www.amazon.com/Constitution-Knowledge-Jonathan-Rauch/dp/0815738862) 
Cross Purposes: Christianity's Broken Bargain with Democracy (https://www.amazon.com/Cross-Purposes-Christianitys-Bargain-Democracy/dp/0300273541)
Errata
Jonathan Rauch is the author of nine books, not eight! 
Socials
Follow us on Twitter at @JonRauch, @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani
Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link
Become a patreon subscriber here (https://www.patreon.com/Increments). Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations here (https://ko-fi.com/increments).
Click dem like buttons on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ)
Anyone in Canada have a basement suite Jonathan could rent for a while? Send your address over to incrementspodcast@gmail.com Special Guest: Jonathan Rauch.
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    <![CDATA[<p>We&#39;re joined by Jonathan Rauch to discuss what it means to be a radical incrementalist, how to foment revolution on geological timescales, and whether Christianity can be a force for good in politics. Can Jon convince angry-Hitchens-atheist Vaden that Christianity has some benefits? Will both Vaden and Ben be at Sunday prayer? </p>

<p>Follow Jonathan on his <a href="https://www.jonathanrauch.com/about.html" rel="nofollow">website</a>, at <a href="https://www.brookings.edu/people/jonathan-rauch/" rel="nofollow">Brookings</a>, at <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/author/jonathan-rauch/" rel="nofollow">The Atlantic</a> or on <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/jonrauch.bsky.social" rel="nofollow">Bluesky</a>. </p>

<h1>We discuss</h1>

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<li>The constitution of knowledge and whether it&#39;s holding </li>
<li>Norms vs laws, and whether we should introduce more laws to codify norms </li>
<li>Popper&#39;s paradox of tolerance</li>
<li>How should liberals respond to illiberalism? Which tactics, if any, should democrats adopt from MAGA to fight MAGA?<br></li>
<li>Sharp Christianity and Christian nationalism </li>
<li>Rauch&#39;s plea to Christians </li>
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<h1>References</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Constitution-Knowledge-Jonathan-Rauch/dp/0815738862" rel="nofollow">The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of Truth</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Cross-Purposes-Christianitys-Bargain-Democracy/dp/0300273541" rel="nofollow">Cross Purposes: Christianity&#39;s Broken Bargain with Democracy</a></li>
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<h1>Errata</h1>

<p>Jonathan Rauch is the author of nine books, not eight! </p>

<h1>Socials</h1>

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @JonRauch, @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>Become a patreon subscriber <a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations <a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</li>
<li>Click dem like buttons on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow">youtube</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Anyone in Canada have a basement suite Jonathan could rent for a while? Send your address over to <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a></p><p>Special Guest: Jonathan Rauch.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>We&#39;re joined by Jonathan Rauch to discuss what it means to be a radical incrementalist, how to foment revolution on geological timescales, and whether Christianity can be a force for good in politics. Can Jon convince angry-Hitchens-atheist Vaden that Christianity has some benefits? Will both Vaden and Ben be at Sunday prayer? </p>

<p>Follow Jonathan on his <a href="https://www.jonathanrauch.com/about.html" rel="nofollow">website</a>, at <a href="https://www.brookings.edu/people/jonathan-rauch/" rel="nofollow">Brookings</a>, at <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/author/jonathan-rauch/" rel="nofollow">The Atlantic</a> or on <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/jonrauch.bsky.social" rel="nofollow">Bluesky</a>. </p>

<h1>We discuss</h1>

<ul>
<li>The constitution of knowledge and whether it&#39;s holding </li>
<li>Norms vs laws, and whether we should introduce more laws to codify norms </li>
<li>Popper&#39;s paradox of tolerance</li>
<li>How should liberals respond to illiberalism? Which tactics, if any, should democrats adopt from MAGA to fight MAGA?<br></li>
<li>Sharp Christianity and Christian nationalism </li>
<li>Rauch&#39;s plea to Christians </li>
</ul>

<h1>References</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Constitution-Knowledge-Jonathan-Rauch/dp/0815738862" rel="nofollow">The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of Truth</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Cross-Purposes-Christianitys-Bargain-Democracy/dp/0300273541" rel="nofollow">Cross Purposes: Christianity&#39;s Broken Bargain with Democracy</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>Errata</h1>

<p>Jonathan Rauch is the author of nine books, not eight! </p>

<h1>Socials</h1>

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @JonRauch, @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>Become a patreon subscriber <a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations <a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</li>
<li>Click dem like buttons on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow">youtube</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Anyone in Canada have a basement suite Jonathan could rent for a while? Send your address over to <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a></p><p>Special Guest: Jonathan Rauch.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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  <title>#77 (Bonus) - AI Doom Debate (w/ Liron Shapira)</title>
  <link>https://www.incrementspodcast.com/77</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2024 13:30:00 -0800</pubDate>
  <author>Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Part II of the great debate! Is AI about to kill everyone? Should you cash in on those vacation days now? </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>2:21:22</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Back on Liron's Doom Debates podcast! Will we actually get around to the subject of superintelligent AI this time? Is it time to worry about the end of the world? Will Ben and Vaden emotionally recover from the devastating youtube comments from the last episode? 
Follow Liron on twitter (@liron) and check out the Doom Debates youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/@DoomDebates) and podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/doom-debates/id1751366208).  
We discuss
Definitions of "new knowledge" 
The reliance of deep learning on induction 
Can AIs be creative? 
The limits of statistical prediction 
Predictions of what deep learning cannot accomplish 
Can ChatGPT write funny jokes? 
Trends versus principles 
The psychological consequences of doomerism
Socials
Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani, @liron
Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link
The world is going to end soon, might as well get exclusive bonus content by becoming a patreon subscriber here (https://www.patreon.com/Increments). Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations here (https://ko-fi.com/increments).
Click dem like buttons on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ)
Was Vaden's two week anti-debate bro reeducation camp successful? Tell us at incrementspodcast@gmail.com
 Special Guest: Liron Shapira.
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  <itunes:keywords>AI, superintelligence, existential risk, novelty, induction, deep learning, comedy, creativity, knowledge</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Back on Liron&#39;s <strong>Doom Debates</strong> podcast! Will we actually get around to the subject of superintelligent AI this time? Is it time to worry about the end of the world? Will Ben and Vaden emotionally recover from the devastating youtube comments from the last episode? </p>

<p>Follow Liron on twitter (@liron) and check out the Doom Debates <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@DoomDebates" rel="nofollow">youtube channel</a> and <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/doom-debates/id1751366208" rel="nofollow">podcast</a>.  </p>

<h1>We discuss</h1>

<ul>
<li>Definitions of &quot;new knowledge&quot; </li>
<li>The reliance of deep learning on induction </li>
<li>Can AIs be creative? </li>
<li>The limits of statistical prediction </li>
<li>Predictions of what deep learning cannot accomplish </li>
<li>Can ChatGPT write funny jokes? </li>
<li>Trends versus principles </li>
<li>The psychological consequences of doomerism</li>
</ul>

<h1>Socials</h1>

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani, @liron</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>The world is going to end soon, might as well get exclusive bonus content by becoming a patreon subscriber <a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations <a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</li>
<li>Click dem like buttons on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow">youtube</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Was Vaden&#39;s two week anti-debate bro reeducation camp successful? Tell us at <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a></p><p>Special Guest: Liron Shapira.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Back on Liron&#39;s <strong>Doom Debates</strong> podcast! Will we actually get around to the subject of superintelligent AI this time? Is it time to worry about the end of the world? Will Ben and Vaden emotionally recover from the devastating youtube comments from the last episode? </p>

<p>Follow Liron on twitter (@liron) and check out the Doom Debates <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@DoomDebates" rel="nofollow">youtube channel</a> and <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/doom-debates/id1751366208" rel="nofollow">podcast</a>.  </p>

<h1>We discuss</h1>

<ul>
<li>Definitions of &quot;new knowledge&quot; </li>
<li>The reliance of deep learning on induction </li>
<li>Can AIs be creative? </li>
<li>The limits of statistical prediction </li>
<li>Predictions of what deep learning cannot accomplish </li>
<li>Can ChatGPT write funny jokes? </li>
<li>Trends versus principles </li>
<li>The psychological consequences of doomerism</li>
</ul>

<h1>Socials</h1>

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani, @liron</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>The world is going to end soon, might as well get exclusive bonus content by becoming a patreon subscriber <a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations <a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</li>
<li>Click dem like buttons on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow">youtube</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Was Vaden&#39;s two week anti-debate bro reeducation camp successful? Tell us at <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a></p><p>Special Guest: Liron Shapira.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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  <title>#10 (C&amp;R Series, Ch. 4) - Tradition</title>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2020 14:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani</author>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Traditions, what are you good for? Absolutely nothing? In this episode of Increments, Ben and Vaden begin their series on Conjectures and Refutations by looking at the role tradition plays in society, and examine one tradition in particular - the critical tradition. No monkeys were harmed in the making of this episode. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References:&lt;br&gt;- C&amp;amp;R, Chapter 4: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;a href="https://tinyurl.com/y39d25zu"&gt;Towards a Rational Theory of Tradition&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Podcast shoutout:&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;-&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;Jennifer Doleac and Rob Wiblin on &lt;a href="https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/jennifer-doleac-reforming-police-preventing-crime/"&gt;policing, law and incarceration&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;- James Foreman Jr. on the &lt;a href="https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/james-forman-jr-cruelty-in-the-us-criminal-legal-system/"&gt;US criminal legal system&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;em&gt;audio updated 26/12/2020&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt; 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Traditions, what are you good for? Absolutely nothing? In this episode of Increments, Ben and Vaden begin their series on Conjectures and Refutations by looking at the role tradition plays in society, and examine one tradition in particular - the critical tradition. No monkeys were harmed in the making of this episode. <br/><br/><br/><b>References:<br/>- C&amp;R, Chapter 4: </b><a href='https://tinyurl.com/y39d25zu'>Towards a Rational Theory of Tradition</a><br/><br/><br/><b>Podcast shoutout:<br/></b>-<b> </b>Jennifer Doleac and Rob Wiblin on <a href='https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/jennifer-doleac-reforming-police-preventing-crime/'>policing, law and incarceration</a><br/>- James Foreman Jr. on the <a href='https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/james-forman-jr-cruelty-in-the-us-criminal-legal-system/'>US criminal legal system</a><b><br/></b><br/><em>audio updated 26/12/2020</em><br/><br/><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Traditions, what are you good for? Absolutely nothing? In this episode of Increments, Ben and Vaden begin their series on Conjectures and Refutations by looking at the role tradition plays in society, and examine one tradition in particular - the critical tradition. No monkeys were harmed in the making of this episode. <br/><br/><br/><b>References:<br/>- C&amp;R, Chapter 4: </b><a href='https://tinyurl.com/y39d25zu'>Towards a Rational Theory of Tradition</a><br/><br/><br/><b>Podcast shoutout:<br/></b>-<b> </b>Jennifer Doleac and Rob Wiblin on <a href='https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/jennifer-doleac-reforming-police-preventing-crime/'>policing, law and incarceration</a><br/>- James Foreman Jr. on the <a href='https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/james-forman-jr-cruelty-in-the-us-criminal-legal-system/'>US criminal legal system</a><b><br/></b><br/><em>audio updated 26/12/2020</em><br/><br/><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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