app01 Fri, 19 Jun 2026 10:15:25 +0000 Fireside (https://fireside.fm) Increments - Episodes Tagged with “Debate” https://www.incrementspodcast.com/tags/debate Mon, 08 Mar 2021 10:00:00 -0800 Vaden Masrani, a senior research scientist in machine learning, and Ben Chugg, a PhD student in statistics, get into trouble arguing about everything except machine learning and statistics. Coherence is somewhere on the horizon. Bribes, suggestions, love-mail and hate-mail all welcome at incrementspodcast@gmail.com. en-us episodic Science, Philosophy, Epistemology, Mayhem Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani Vaden Masrani, a senior research scientist in machine learning, and Ben Chugg, a PhD student in statistics, get into trouble arguing about everything except machine learning and statistics. Coherence is somewhere on the horizon. Bribes, suggestions, love-mail and hate-mail all welcome at incrementspodcast@gmail.com. no Philosophy,Science,Ethics,Progress,Knowledge,Computer Science,Conversation,Error-Correction Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani incrementspodcast@gmail.com #20 (HTI crossover episode) - Roundtable Longtermism Discussion https://www.incrementspodcast.com/20 Buzzsprout-8100547 Mon, 08 Mar 2021 10:00:00 -0800 Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani full Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani 3:14:44 no <p>Hello and sorry for the delay! We finally got together with Fin and Luca from the excellent <a href="https://hearthisidea.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">HearThisIdea</a> podcast for a nice roundtable discussion on longtermism. We laughed, we cried, we tried our best to communicate across the divide.&nbsp; <br><br>Material referenced in the discussion:<br><br>- <a href="https://80000hours.org/problem-profiles/" rel="nofollow noopener">80k Hours Problem Profiles</a><br>- <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20191023155157/https://foundational-research.org/s-risks-talk-eag-boston-2017/" rel="nofollow noopener">Jon Hamm&nbsp; imprisons us in an Alexa</a><br>- <a href="https://globalprioritiesinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/Hilary-Greaves-and-William-MacAskill_strong-longtermism.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">The Case for Strong Longtermism</a><br>- <a href="https://vmasrani.github.io/blog/2020/against_longtermism/" rel="nofollow noopener">A Case Against Strong Longtermism</a><br>- <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/existential/risks.html" rel="nofollow noopener">Nick Bostrom's seminal paper on existential risks</a><br><br>Quote:&nbsp; "[Events like Chernobyl, Bhopal, volcano eruptions, earthquakes, draughts, World War I, World War II, epidemics of influenza, smallpox, black plague, and AIDS. ] have occurred many times and our cultural attitudes towards risk have been shaped by trial-and-error in managing such hazards. But tragic as such events are to the people immediately affected, in the big picture of things – from the perspective of humankind as a whole – <em>even the worst of these catastrophes are mere ripples on the surface of the great sea of life.</em>&nbsp; (italics added)"<br><br>- Nick Bostrom's "<a href="https://www.nickbostrom.com/papers/survey.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">A survey of expert opinion</a>" (errata: Vaden incorrectly said this paper was coauthored by Nick Bostrom and Toby Ord. It's actually authored by Vincent C. Müller and Nick Bostrom - Toby Ord and Anders Sandberg are acknowledged on page 15 for having helped design the questionnaire.)&nbsp;<br><br>Send us a survey of expert credences over at <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a></p> Special Guests: Fin Moorhouse and Luca Righetti. debate, longtermism, effective altruism Hello and sorry for the delay! We finally got together with Fin and Luca from the excellent HearThisIdea podcast for a nice roundtable discussion on longtermism. We laughed, we cried, we tried our best to communicate across the divide. 

Material referenced in the discussion:

- 80k Hours Problem Profiles
- Jon Hamm  imprisons us in an Alexa
- The Case for Strong Longtermism
- A Case Against Strong Longtermism
- Nick Bostrom's seminal paper on existential risks

Quote:  "[Events like Chernobyl, Bhopal, volcano eruptions, earthquakes, draughts, World War I, World War II, epidemics of influenza, smallpox, black plague, and AIDS. ] have occurred many times and our cultural attitudes towards risk have been shaped by trial-and-error in managing such hazards. But tragic as such events are to the people immediately affected, in the big picture of things – from the perspective of humankind as a whole – even the worst of these catastrophes are mere ripples on the surface of the great sea of life.  (italics added)"

- Nick Bostrom's "A survey of expert opinion" (errata: Vaden incorrectly said this paper was coauthored by Nick Bostrom and Toby Ord. It's actually authored by Vincent C. Müller and Nick Bostrom - Toby Ord and Anders Sandberg are acknowledged on page 15 for having helped design the questionnaire.) 

Send us a survey of expert credences over at incrementspodcast@gmail.com

Special Guests: Fin Moorhouse and Luca Righetti.

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]]> Hello and sorry for the delay! We finally got together with Fin and Luca from the excellent HearThisIdea podcast for a nice roundtable discussion on longtermism. We laughed, we cried, we tried our best to communicate across the divide. 

Material referenced in the discussion:

- 80k Hours Problem Profiles
- Jon Hamm  imprisons us in an Alexa
- The Case for Strong Longtermism
- A Case Against Strong Longtermism
- Nick Bostrom's seminal paper on existential risks

Quote:  "[Events like Chernobyl, Bhopal, volcano eruptions, earthquakes, draughts, World War I, World War II, epidemics of influenza, smallpox, black plague, and AIDS. ] have occurred many times and our cultural attitudes towards risk have been shaped by trial-and-error in managing such hazards. But tragic as such events are to the people immediately affected, in the big picture of things – from the perspective of humankind as a whole – even the worst of these catastrophes are mere ripples on the surface of the great sea of life.  (italics added)"

- Nick Bostrom's "A survey of expert opinion" (errata: Vaden incorrectly said this paper was coauthored by Nick Bostrom and Toby Ord. It's actually authored by Vincent C. Müller and Nick Bostrom - Toby Ord and Anders Sandberg are acknowledged on page 15 for having helped design the questionnaire.) 

Send us a survey of expert credences over at incrementspodcast@gmail.com

Special Guests: Fin Moorhouse and Luca Righetti.

Support Increments

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