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    <description>Vaden Masrani, a senior research scientist in machine learning, and Ben Chugg, a PhD student in statistics, get into trouble arguing about everything except machine learning and statistics. Coherence is somewhere on the horizon. 
Bribes, suggestions, love-mail and hate-mail all welcome at incrementspodcast@gmail.com. 
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    <itunes:summary>Vaden Masrani, a senior research scientist in machine learning, and Ben Chugg, a PhD student in statistics, get into trouble arguing about everything except machine learning and statistics. Coherence is somewhere on the horizon. 
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  <title>#91 - The Uses and Abuses of Statistics (w/ Ben Recht)</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>What is statistics good for? Has it ever discovered anything? Where does the word "robot" come from? Ben Recht joins us to untangle these mysteries. </itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Professor of electrical engineering and computer science Ben Recht joins us to defend Bayesianism, AI doom, and assure us that the statisticians have everything under control. 
Just kidding. Recht might be even more suspicious of these things than we are. What has statistics ever done for us, really? When was the last time YOU ran a clinical trial after all, huh? HUH? After Ben Chugg defends his life decision to do a PhD in statistics, we talk AI, cults, philosophy, Paul Meehl, and discuss Ben Recht's forthcoming book, The Irrational Decision (https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691272443/the-irrational-decision). 
Check out Ben's blog (https://www.argmin.net/), website (https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~brecht/), and his story about machine learning (https://mlstory.org/).    
We discuss
Ben Recht's theory of blogging 
Why is Berkeley the epicenter of AI doom?  
Where the word "robot" came from 
Is Bayesian reasoning responsible for AI doom? 
Paul Meehl and his contributions to science 
Ben Recht's bureaucratic theory of statistics
What on earth is null hypothesis testing? 
What is the point of statistics?
"Sweet spots" and "small worlds"
Does science proceed by Popperian means? 
Can Popper get around the Duhem-Quine problem?  
Errata
The z-score for the Pfizer trial was 20, not 12! 
References
Argmin (https://www.argmin.net/), Ben Recht's blog
David Freedman, UC Berkeley (https://statistics.berkeley.edu/about/biographies/david-freedman) 
Paul Meehl's online course (https://www.youtube.com/@michaelmcgovern8633/featured) 
Theoretical Risks and Tabular Asterisks: Sir Karl, Sir Ronald, and the Slow Progress of Soft Psychology (https://errorstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/meehl-1978.pdf), Paul Meehl's 1978 paper. 
Clinical versus statistical prediction: A theoretical analysis and a review of the evidence (https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2006-21565-000), by Meehl 
On the near impossibility of estimating the returns to advertising (https://ftp.zew.de/pub/zew-docs/veranstaltungen/ICT2013/Papers/ICT2013_Rao.pdf)
A Bureaucratic Theory of Statistics (https://arxiv.org/pdf/2501.03457) by Recht 
The new riddle of induction (https://fitelson.org/confirmation/goodman_1955.pdf) by Goodman 
Announcing the Irrational Decision (https://www.argmin.net/p/announcing-the-irrational-decision) 
Patterns, Predictions, and Actions (https://mlstory.org/), textbook by Ben Recht and Moritz Hardt
Socials
Follow us on Twitter at @BeenWrekt, @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani
Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link
Become a patreon subscriber here (https://www.patreon.com/Increments). Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations here (https://ko-fi.com/increments).
Click dem like buttons on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ)
What's Berkeley's next cult? Send your guess over to incrementspodcast@gmail.com
 Special Guest: Ben Recht.
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    <![CDATA[<p>Professor of electrical engineering and computer science Ben Recht joins us to defend Bayesianism, AI doom, and assure us that the statisticians have everything under control. </p>

<p>Just kidding. Recht might be even more suspicious of these things than we are. What has statistics ever done for us, really? When was the last time YOU ran a clinical trial after all, huh? HUH? After Ben Chugg defends his life decision to do a PhD in statistics, we talk AI, cults, philosophy, Paul Meehl, and discuss Ben Recht&#39;s forthcoming book, <a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691272443/the-irrational-decision" rel="nofollow">The Irrational Decision</a>. </p>

<p>Check out Ben&#39;s <a href="https://www.argmin.net/" rel="nofollow">blog</a>, <a href="https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/%7Ebrecht/" rel="nofollow">website</a>, and his <a href="https://mlstory.org/" rel="nofollow">story about machine learning</a>.    </p>

<h1>We discuss</h1>

<ul>
<li>Ben Recht&#39;s theory of blogging </li>
<li>Why is Berkeley the epicenter of AI doom?<br></li>
<li>Where the word &quot;robot&quot; came from </li>
<li>Is Bayesian reasoning responsible for AI doom? </li>
<li>Paul Meehl and his contributions to science </li>
<li>Ben Recht&#39;s bureaucratic theory of statistics</li>
<li>What on earth is null hypothesis testing? </li>
<li>What is the point of statistics?</li>
<li>&quot;Sweet spots&quot; and &quot;small worlds&quot;</li>
<li>Does science proceed by Popperian means? </li>
<li>Can Popper get around the Duhem-Quine problem?<br></li>
</ul>

<h1>Errata</h1>

<p>The z-score for the Pfizer trial was 20, not 12! </p>

<h1>References</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.argmin.net/" rel="nofollow">Argmin</a>, Ben Recht&#39;s blog</li>
<li><a href="https://statistics.berkeley.edu/about/biographies/david-freedman" rel="nofollow">David Freedman, UC Berkeley</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@michaelmcgovern8633/featured" rel="nofollow">Paul Meehl&#39;s online course</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://errorstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/meehl-1978.pdf" rel="nofollow">Theoretical Risks and Tabular Asterisks: Sir Karl, Sir Ronald, and the Slow Progress of Soft Psychology</a>, Paul Meehl&#39;s 1978 paper. </li>
<li><a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2006-21565-000" rel="nofollow">Clinical versus statistical prediction: A theoretical analysis and a review of the evidence</a>, by Meehl </li>
<li><a href="https://ftp.zew.de/pub/zew-docs/veranstaltungen/ICT2013/Papers/ICT2013_Rao.pdf" rel="nofollow">On the near impossibility of estimating the returns to advertising</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/2501.03457" rel="nofollow">A Bureaucratic Theory of Statistics</a> by Recht </li>
<li><a href="https://fitelson.org/confirmation/goodman_1955.pdf" rel="nofollow">The new riddle of induction</a> by Goodman </li>
<li><a href="https://www.argmin.net/p/announcing-the-irrational-decision" rel="nofollow">Announcing the Irrational Decision</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://mlstory.org/" rel="nofollow">Patterns, Predictions, and Actions</a>, textbook by Ben Recht and Moritz Hardt</li>
</ul>

<h1>Socials</h1>

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @BeenWrekt, @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>Become a patreon subscriber <a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations <a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</li>
<li>Click dem like buttons on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow">youtube</a></li>
</ul>

<p>What&#39;s Berkeley&#39;s next cult? Send your guess over to <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a></p><p>Special Guest: Ben Recht.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Professor of electrical engineering and computer science Ben Recht joins us to defend Bayesianism, AI doom, and assure us that the statisticians have everything under control. </p>

<p>Just kidding. Recht might be even more suspicious of these things than we are. What has statistics ever done for us, really? When was the last time YOU ran a clinical trial after all, huh? HUH? After Ben Chugg defends his life decision to do a PhD in statistics, we talk AI, cults, philosophy, Paul Meehl, and discuss Ben Recht&#39;s forthcoming book, <a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691272443/the-irrational-decision" rel="nofollow">The Irrational Decision</a>. </p>

<p>Check out Ben&#39;s <a href="https://www.argmin.net/" rel="nofollow">blog</a>, <a href="https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/%7Ebrecht/" rel="nofollow">website</a>, and his <a href="https://mlstory.org/" rel="nofollow">story about machine learning</a>.    </p>

<h1>We discuss</h1>

<ul>
<li>Ben Recht&#39;s theory of blogging </li>
<li>Why is Berkeley the epicenter of AI doom?<br></li>
<li>Where the word &quot;robot&quot; came from </li>
<li>Is Bayesian reasoning responsible for AI doom? </li>
<li>Paul Meehl and his contributions to science </li>
<li>Ben Recht&#39;s bureaucratic theory of statistics</li>
<li>What on earth is null hypothesis testing? </li>
<li>What is the point of statistics?</li>
<li>&quot;Sweet spots&quot; and &quot;small worlds&quot;</li>
<li>Does science proceed by Popperian means? </li>
<li>Can Popper get around the Duhem-Quine problem?<br></li>
</ul>

<h1>Errata</h1>

<p>The z-score for the Pfizer trial was 20, not 12! </p>

<h1>References</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.argmin.net/" rel="nofollow">Argmin</a>, Ben Recht&#39;s blog</li>
<li><a href="https://statistics.berkeley.edu/about/biographies/david-freedman" rel="nofollow">David Freedman, UC Berkeley</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@michaelmcgovern8633/featured" rel="nofollow">Paul Meehl&#39;s online course</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://errorstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/meehl-1978.pdf" rel="nofollow">Theoretical Risks and Tabular Asterisks: Sir Karl, Sir Ronald, and the Slow Progress of Soft Psychology</a>, Paul Meehl&#39;s 1978 paper. </li>
<li><a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2006-21565-000" rel="nofollow">Clinical versus statistical prediction: A theoretical analysis and a review of the evidence</a>, by Meehl </li>
<li><a href="https://ftp.zew.de/pub/zew-docs/veranstaltungen/ICT2013/Papers/ICT2013_Rao.pdf" rel="nofollow">On the near impossibility of estimating the returns to advertising</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/2501.03457" rel="nofollow">A Bureaucratic Theory of Statistics</a> by Recht </li>
<li><a href="https://fitelson.org/confirmation/goodman_1955.pdf" rel="nofollow">The new riddle of induction</a> by Goodman </li>
<li><a href="https://www.argmin.net/p/announcing-the-irrational-decision" rel="nofollow">Announcing the Irrational Decision</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://mlstory.org/" rel="nofollow">Patterns, Predictions, and Actions</a>, textbook by Ben Recht and Moritz Hardt</li>
</ul>

<h1>Socials</h1>

<ul>
<li>Follow us on Twitter at @BeenWrekt, @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani</li>
<li>Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link</li>
<li>Become a patreon subscriber <a href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations <a href="https://ko-fi.com/increments" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</li>
<li>Click dem like buttons on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ" rel="nofollow">youtube</a></li>
</ul>

<p>What&#39;s Berkeley&#39;s next cult? Send your guess over to <a href="mailto:incrementspodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">incrementspodcast@gmail.com</a></p><p>Special Guest: Ben Recht.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/Increments">Support Increments</a></p>]]>
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